Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire

Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire
Studio album by Bonnie Tyler
Released 3 May 1986[1]
Recorded 1984–1986
Genre
Length 59:09
Label Columbia
Producer
Bonnie Tyler chronology
Faster Than the Speed of Night
(1983)		 Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire
(1986)		 Hide Your Heart
(1988)
Singles from Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire
  1. "Holding Out for a Hero"
    Released: 13 April 1984
  2. "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It"
    Released: November 1985
  3. "If You Were a Woman (And I Was a Man)"
    Released: March 1986
  4. "Band of Gold"
    Released: May 1986
  5. "No Way to Treat a Lady"
    Released: 1986
  6. "Rebel Without a Clue"
    Released: October 1986
  7. "Lovers Again"
    Released: January 1987

Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire is the sixth studio album by Welsh singer Bonnie Tyler. It was released on 3 May 1986, by Columbia Records, as the follow-up to her fifth studio album, Faster Than the Speed of Night (1983). Three years in the making, the album was executive produced by Jim Steinman, who had produced Tyler's previous album. Seven singles were released from the album, with "Holding Out for a Hero" originally being released two years ahead of the album on the Footloose soundtrack. The album features collaborations with songwriters guest artists including Desmond Child and Todd Rundgren.

Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire received generally mixed reviews. The album was a commercial success, reaching number one on the Norwegian Album Charts.

Background and release

Tyler and Steinman had already seen international success with Faster Than the Speed of Night (1983) and its highest charting single "Total Eclipse of the Heart". Steinman wrote four new songs for Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire, two of which were released as singles. The first song to be released was "Holding Out for a Hero", released in 1984 for the Footloose soundtrack.[3] The other, "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It", was released as a collaborative single with Todd Rundgren in 1986.

Steinman recruited a number of other songwriters for the album, including Desmond Child. Steinman told Child that he wanted a song about androgyny. "I want a special song. The verses have to sound like Tina Turner, the B Section has to sound like The Police, U2, or Hall & Oates, and the chorus has to sound like Bruce Springsteen," he continued.[4] Child used the verbal guide to write "If You Were a Woman (and I Was a Man)". He also wrote "Lovers Again".[5]

"Ravishing" was originally written by Steinman as an instrumental track on The Wrestling Album (1985), titled "Hulk Hogan's Theme". Tyler also recorded "Under Suspicion" during the album's recording. It was written by herself, her brother Paul Hopkins, and Peter Oxendale. The song was used as the B-side to "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It".[6]

Critical reception

Professional ratings
Review scores
SourceRating
Allmusic[2]
Deseret News[7]
Kerrang![8]

Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire received generally mixed reviews from music critics, with much of the criticism being aimed at music producer and hit songwriter Jim Steinman. Steven Wine criticized the length of the tracks, stating that "only Bonnie Tyler's parents would want to listen to her sing the same song for six minutes, but three of the eight tunes on [the album] exceed that span." He went on to describe the album as a "bombastic bore," only crediting one of Steinman's penned songs, "Ravishing".[9] Tom Ford of Toledo Blade stated that "although Tyler proves able to do some interesting things, she is outdistanced by the tiresome ponderousness of the material," concluding that "the prissy, self-indulgence here is just too much to stand."[10] Paul Speelman of The Age opined that Tyler and Steinman were "deeply entrenched in a rut", and found the music to be excessive. "There are banks of synthesizers, layers of percussion, dramatic electronic gimmickry and huge production: no wonder poor old Bonnie had to yell to be heard above that lot," he said, praising Tyler's voice. "The fact that she manages to salvage at least a few tracks attests to her vocal fortitude." He argued that the album was a case of over-indulgence, noting the eight minute and thirty-five second length of "Rebel Without a Clue".[11]

The album did receive some positive reviews as well. Jerry Spangler of Deseret News described the album as "a fine collection of tunes with good musical variety and a lot of energy."[7] Doug Stone of AllMusic stated that the album "depicts a cool portrait of '80s pomposity," but argued that with the album lacking songs like "Faster Than the Speed of Night" and "Total Eclipse of the Heart" from her previous album, Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire becomes substandard to Faster Than the Speed of Night.[2] David Hiltbrand of People (magazine) complimented Bonnie Tyler's voice stating that "Tyler's bluesy roar has enough texture to take the gloss off Steinman's heavy pop arrangements." and "Tyler sings only in capital letters and Jim Steinman produces only at a full gallop pace!"[12]

It should be noted that the album currently has received a 4 out of 5 star rating from music buyers on iTunes.[13]

Singles

The album's lead single, "Holding Out for a Hero", was originally released two years ahead of the album for the Footloose soundtrack (1984).[3] Following the song's initial release, it charted highest in Austria, Canada, Germany and Sweden, peaking at No. 19 in each country, and only No. 96 in the United Kingdom. The song was re-released in 1985 and charted at No. 1 in Ireland and No. 2 in the United Kingdom, where it was certified Silver by the BPI for sales of over 250,000 units.[14]

In 1985, Tyler was recruited by Giorgio Moroder to record "Here She Comes" for the 1984 restoration version of the 1927 German film Metropolis.[15] Following this, "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It", a duet with Todd Rundgren, was released as the second single from Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire. The song could not follow the success of "Holding Out for a Hero" or "Here She Comes", but made the Top 40 in Switzerland, France and Belgium.

"If You Were a Woman (And I Was a Man)" was released as the third single in 1986. The song was most successful in France, where it peaked at No. 6 and was certified Silver by the SNEP for sales of over 200,000 units.[16] "Band of Gold" was released as the fourth single from the album, and the final charting single, reaching No. 81 in the United Kingdom. The last three single releases, "No Way to Treat a Lady", "Rebel Without a Clue" and "Lovers Again" failed to chart worldwide.

Track listing

Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire — Vinyl edition[17]
No.TitleWriter(s)Length
1."Ravishing"  Jim Steinman6:20
2."If You Were a Woman (And I Was a Man)"  Desmond Child4:46
3."Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It" (with Todd Rundgren)Steinman7:28
4."No Way to Treat a Lady"  
4:23
5."Band of Gold"  
5:40
6."Rebel Without a Clue"  Steinman8:30
7."Lovers Again"  Child4:13
8."Holding Out for a Hero"  
4:50

Charts

Chart (1986) Peak
position
Austrian Albums (Ö3 Austria)[19] 23
Canada RPM Top Albums (RPM)[20] 94
French Albums (SNEP)[21] 15
German Albums (Offizielle Top 100)[22] 24
New Zealand Albums (RMNZ)[23] 45
Norwegian Albums (VG-lista)[24] 1
Swedish Albums (Sverigetopplistan)[25] 6
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade)[26] 3
UK Albums (OCC)[27] 24
US Billboard 200[28] 106

Credits and personnel

Credits adapted from AllMusic:[29]

Technical and production

  • Larry Alexander – mixing
  • Nelson Ayres – assistant engineer
  • Roy Bittan – arrangement, associate producer
  • Greg Calbi – mastering
  • Rory Dodd – arrangement, vocal arrangement
  • Neil Dorfsman – mixing
  • Greg Edward – mixing
  • Larry Fast – associate producer, programming
  • Ellen Foley – vocal arrangement
  • John Jansen – associate producer, mastering consultant
  • Don Ketteler – production coordination
  • Tom "Bones" Malone – horn arrangement
  • Sir Arthur Payson – mixing
  • Steve Rinkoff – engineering
  • John Rollo – associate producer, engineering
  • Todd Rundgren – vocal arrangement
  • John Philip Shenale – producer
  • Joe Stefko – drum programming
  • Jim Steinman – arrangement, direction, producer
  • Eric Troyer – vocal arrangement
On instruments

Visuals and imagery
  • Bob Carlos Clarke – concept, photography
  • Rick Haylor – hair stylist
  • Roslav Szaybo – designing
Sounding
  • Bonnie Tyler – vocal
  • Tawatha Agee – background vocal
  • Rory Dodd – background vocal
  • Curtis King – background vocal
  • Cindy Mizelle – background vocal
  • Todd Rundgren – featured artist, background vocal
  • Holly Sherwood – background vocal
  • Eric Troyer – background vocal
Managerial
  • David Aspden – management

References

  1. 1 2 "Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire by Bonnie Tyler". United Kingdom: iTunes Store. Retrieved 14 March 2015.
  2. 1 2 3 4 Stone, Doug. "Bonnie Tyler Secret Dreams & Forbidden Fire review". Allmusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved 2011-09-05.
  3. 1 2 "Footloose (Original Soundtrack) [15th Anniversary Collectors' Edition] by Various Artists". iTunes Store. Apple. Retrieved 14 March 2015.
  4. ↑ Curtis Child (15 August 2013). "Desmond Child Special". YouTube. Google Inc. Retrieved 5 January 2014.
  5. ↑ Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire (Vinyl record liner notes). Bonnie Tyler. Columbia Records. 1986. CBS 86319.
  6. ↑ Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It (Vinyl record liner notes). Bonnie Tyler. Columbia Records. 1985. TA 6662.
  7. 1 2 Spangler, Jerry (25 April 1986). "Pop records: a mixed bag of hits and misses". Deseret News. Deseret News Publishing Company. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  8. ↑ Dickson, Dave (29 May 1986). "Bonnie Tyler 'Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire'". Kerrang!. 121. London, UK: United Magazines ltd. p. 18.
  9. ↑ Wine, Steven (28 May 1986). "Records In Review". Syracuse Herald-Journal. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  10. ↑ Ford, Tom (12 June 1986). "Recordings – Reviews by Blade Staff Writers". Toledo Blade. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  11. ↑ Speelman, Paul (19 June 1986). "Janis Ian: her idea of slashing time". The Age. Fairfax Media. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  12. ↑ Hiltbrand, David (2 June 1986). "Picks and Pans Review: Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire". People (magazine). Retrieved 27 January 2016.
  13. ↑ "Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire by Bonnie Tyler". United States: iTunes Store. Retrieved 27 January 2016.
  14. ↑ "British album certifications – Bonnie Tyler – Holding Out for a Hero". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 25 August 2014. Enter Holding Out for a Hero in the field Search. Select Title in the field Search by. Select album in the field By Format. Click Go
  15. ↑ "Here She Comes by Bonnie Tyler". iTunes Store. Apple, Inc. Retrieved 31 July 2014.
  16. ↑ Bonnie Tyler's certifications and sales See: "Les Ventes" => "Toutes les certifications depuis 1973" => "TYLER Bonnie" Infodisc.fr . Retrieved July 30, 2008.
  17. ↑ Secret Dreams And Forbidden Fire (Vinyl record). Bonnie Tyler. CBS Records. 1986. CBS 86319.
  18. ↑ Secret Dreams And Forbidden Fire (Compact Cassette). Bonnie Tyler. CBS Records. 1986. CBS 40-86319.
  19. ↑ "Austriancharts.at – Bonnie Tyler – Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire" (in German). Hung Medien. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  20. ↑ "RPM 100 Albums". RPM. 3 May 1986. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  21. ↑ "Lescharts.com – Bonnie Tyler – Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire". Hung Medien. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
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  27. ↑ "Bonnie Tyler | Artist | Official Charts". UK Albums Chart Retrieved 24 August 2014.
  28. ↑ "Bonnie Tyler – Chart history" Billboard 200 for Bonnie Tyler. Retrieved 24 August 2014.
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